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Sisters Thomasin and Davida McKenzie collab on short film

Principal photography on short film Our Party from writer-director Joshua Prendeville has wrapped in New Zealand. The film is a modern adaptation of the celebrated Katherine Mansfield short story The Garden Party (1922). It follows 18-year-old Laura as she prepares her opulent home for a party when news of a neighbourhood tragedy forces her to confront a reality from which she has been sheltered from in her privileged life.

The lead role of Laura is played by Davida McKenzie (Klara and the Sun, The Speedway Murders) whose real-life sister Thomasin McKenzie (Joy, Last Night In Soho, Jojo Rabbit, Leave No Trace) plays her on-screen sibling in the film. The Wellington siblings are joined in the cast by Michael Hurst, Alison Bruce and Theo Shakes. Writer-director Prendeville is a New Zealander known for The House Within (2024), a documentary on writer Dame Fiona Kidman, which will be released theatrically in 2025.

The Post caught up with the McKenzie sisters after filming on Our Party wrapped …

Hi Thomasin! What was it like playing the older sister in Our Party to Davida, your real-life sister? Did your sibling dynamic influence how you approached the role?

TM: Yes definitely! The sister bond is such an intense one. You love each other yet you can fight like cats because you are so close. I am six years older than Davida and so I helped to bring her up and care for her. But now it feels like we are much more of the same age … I think this gave us more courage in being able to challenge each other as characters in Our Party, which really reflects the sibling bond and conflict in the original story.

How does playing a character in a modern adaptation of a classic like The Garden Party compare to some of your other roles?

TM: There are so many Mansfield stories from this time in her life, growing up in Days Bay and Karori and then becoming a teenager in Thorndon and longing to leave New Zealand. All these stories feed into our interpretation of these roles, because they all represent different parts of Mansfield’s life. It’s a rich research base. So I think this relied less on actors’ imagination and more on plunging into the reality of Mansfield’s life, as there was so much to draw from.

The film touches on themes of privilege, reality and coming-of-age. Was there a specific moment made you reflect on your own perspective about privilege or growing up?

TM: Oh yes of course. The conversation on the stairs between Davida as Laura and me as Meg was an eye-opener. There is a big difference between being 18, just graduated from school, like Davida, and being 24, living an independent life in London, like I do. The difference between idealism and reality was so stark for us in that scene.

We both went to Marsden School in Karori in Wellington, which is where Mansfield also went. So we really felt that these characters were very close to us, whether they had been set in the 1920s or as they are in Joshua’s film, in 2025.

Hi Davida! You play Laura in Our Party, a character forced to confront a tragedy while planning a lavish event. What challenges did you face in portraying someone caught between the privilege of her world and the harsh reality outside it?

DM: Well right now with such crazy events in the world yet also celebrating my graduation from school with the leaver’s ball and all the crazy preparation for moving to London … it’s hard to ignore the contrast between tragedy and privilege. This story was on point in 1922 and still resonates today.

Having worked on projects like Klara and the Sun and The Speedway Murders, how did your experience in those roles inform your portrayal of Laura?

DM: I guess the other films I have been in have been dystopian or futuristic or set in the past, ever since Silent Night. Our Party is set right now. We shot in a real house, not on a set, and this made it seem all the more real, as though there was no acting required.

How did it feel to work so closely with Thomasin?

DM: I loved playing this role opposite Tom. My favourite moment was when they cranked the music up really loud and we just had to dance and have fun. That was really a blast. Dancing with Tom and Michael Hurst and Alison Bruce who played our dad and mum, was just like real life. In fact only the week before I was at my graduation ball and danced with my own dad and mum in exactly the same way. This film was perfect timing. Everything that Laura was experiencing with leaving school, I had just experienced too.

Source: thepost.co.nz





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Netflix Queue

With Joy, actor Thomasin McKenzie brings attention to one of the heroes of IVF.

When actor Thomasin McKenzie got the script for Joy, she had no idea the impact the lead character would have on her. The British biographical drama, which also stars Bill Nighy and James Norton as surgeon Patrick Steptoe and scientist Robert Edwards, respectively, tells the true story of the world’s first baby created using in vitro fertilization. McKenzie plays Jean Purdy, a British nurse and embryologist who, alongside Steptoe and Edwards, worked to develop the landmark fertility treatment. And although the movie comes 46 years after the first “test-tube” baby Louise Joy Brown was born, the film’s themes around women’s autonomy are still as prevalent today as they were back then.

After accepting the role, McKenzie had a major task ahead of her in regards to preparation. Although much had been documented and publicized around the creation of IVF, not much was publicized about Jean Purdy’s involvement — her role in the development of IVF was largely ignored by the scientific community, despite attempts made by Steptoe and Edwards to spotlight her work. For Joy, McKenzie, alongside screenwriter Jack Thorne, his wife Rachel Mason, and director Ben Taylor, pieced together who Purdy was — and the impact she had on women and families around the world.

Here, Queue sits down with McKenzie to discuss bringing the story of Jean Purdy and the world’s first IVF baby to the screen.

An edited version of the conversation follows.

When watching Joy and seeing Jean Purdy’s impact on science and IVF, I was a bit embarrassed to not have known about her prior to watching. Can you tell me about what it was like getting the script and learning about her?
Thomasin McKenzie: I wasn’t familiar with Jean Purdy before either. I knew what IVF was; it had been around my whole life. The first IVF birth was in ’78 and I was born in 2000, so I thought IVF was a given. I didn’t know anything about how it was invented or the history behind it, so there was lots to learn. A lot of the research was done by Rachel Mason and Jack Thorne, the co-creators. They spent years looking into the history and talking to as many first-hand accounts as they could. They looked at historical records, academic papers, and interviews. Part of the research I did was talking to the man who brought IVF to New Zealand, Richard Fisher. I [happened to have] babysat his grandchildren and I’m still quite close to the family, so when I mentioned to them that I was doing a film about IVF they let me know about their grandfather.

What a full-circle moment for you! What stories did he share with you? TM: Yeah, they are a fantastic family. They really generously set up a dinner between Richard Fisher, me, and Ben Taylor, Joy’s director. Richard told us some pretty incredible stories. Some were about when IVF was first introduced and he would be driving to work to go to the clinic and there would be people picketing and shouting abuse at you. The scene when Jean opens the box [from a protestor] — it feels very personal and scary because someone has delivered that directly to her door and it’s pretty violent.

As part of your preparation, you and James Norton visited London’s Guy’s Hospital to see embryos and chat with medical professionals there. What was that experience like? TM: Going to Guy’s Hospital was incredibly moving. I was able to see embryologists at work extracting DNA from embryos. I saw embryos in an incubator. They have really advanced incubators where you can watch the embryos develop onscreen. You can see the cluster of cells and look at the person next to you and you think, “That’s you!” The level of science is mind-boggling.

Much of Jean’s impact was forgotten or pushed aside by the science community. As you learned more and more about her, did you find it frustrating that she was left out of so much discourse around IVF?
TM: It was infuriating because there’s very little on her. Jean was a very private person. Rachel and Jack did painstaking research to find out as much about her as possible, but there was very little information out there. I feel like I know Jean very well, and I really feel for her. It is true that she had endometriosis and that she wasn’t able to have children of her own, so the fact that she helped other people have children — twelve-plus million babies — shows that she’s left such a huge impact.

According to the World Health Organization, one in six people are affected by IVF. Everyone knows someone who’s been through IVF. She’s left such an impact on the world and she deserves to be known. It is infuriating that the medical scientific community refused to include her in the acknowledgments. It wasn’t Bob Edwards and Patrick Steptoe — they tried to get her recognition. Also, the women who gave themselves to this work also need that recognition because women’s bodies are complicated things. They were testing out IVF and trying different things, like the levels of hormones. These women were so generous because [IVF] wasn’t necessarily going to work for them. But they did it for people in the future.

It’s their contributions back then that have allowed for all of us to be given a choice. Unless you’ve been tested, you don’t understand the sadness that could come from not being able to have children.
TM: Speaking for myself, I’ve always wondered if I was able to have children or not because I have anxiety around health and things. I think it’s a feeling for women that we can be let down by our bodies — sometimes a lot — because of all that we go through. Not just periods but everything else that comes.

Jean is seen as an equal by Patrick and Robert even in spaces where it was solely men discussing women’s bodies. Was her input something that was apparent when you initially read the script?
TM: Yeah, it was apparent that Jean is the one who helps to hold it all together. If she hadn’t been part of the team, I really don’t think it would have happened. I don’t think there would have been success in that realm of IVF. I think she was the key there and the one that brought them back together. The shock she has in that scene with Bob because they didn’t continue without her like she thought they did . . . they needed her.

Jean is ostracized from her church because of their disapproval of IVF. And the film also delves into the pressure women have to be mothers — especially back then — even when they can’t reproduce through no fault of their own. Those themes are still prevalent today. What was it like depicting that onscreen?
TM: It’s the judgment that people place on others who make the decision not to have children or maybe they’re struggling to have children. There are so many things you don’t know, like their medical history, and there’s so much judgment placed on people when it comes to that. But at the end of the day, it’s just about choice. It’s about the woman’s choice to have control over her own body and her own decisions. Their autonomy is incredibly important.

The film is spread out over a decade, which means your wardrobe and hair had to reflect a lot of changes for Jean. How did those choices help inform your portrayal of Jean and the mindset she was in?
TM: Naturally, I look very young. The costumes and hair and makeup all had a huge impact. My natural hair isn’t the best so I wore either a full or partial wig for Joy. I wouldn’t allow people outside of makeup to see me without the wig. I just wanted to have that separation between Jean and me. That separation is really important to me, it’s a confidence thing. I think Jean did have a lot of confidence in her abilities, she knew she was a very smart person. When I put that wig on, I was like, “I know science!”

You, James, and Bill all worked quite closely together on this film. What was your collaboration process like?
TM: It was very joyful. There’s no other word for it. James is such a laugh; he’s so boisterous and also caring and thoughtful. Bill is just Bill: He’s an icon and legend. He carries that name unbelievably well. He is so thoughtful and caring and aware and sings all the time.

When you look back at your time over filming, is there a specific scene that sticks out in your mind?
TM: Definitely the scene between Jean and Muriel, the matron, about the woman’s right to have a choice about abortion. It is a massive decision to have a child. It upends your entire life, particularly women’s lives because it’s our body. Whether you choose to have a child, or whether you choose not to have a child, whether you choose to adopt or for someone else to carry your child, it’s a choice. That felt so important to acknowledge in the film.

Lastly, what do you want people to take away from the film, especially given how timely it still is today?
TM: I think there’s a lot of love in this film. A lot of love went into making it, and a lot of love resulted from the true story. There are so many things people could and should take away from it, but I’ll keep it at love.

Source: netflixqueue.com





1883 Magazine

For 1883 Magazine’s latest cover, we sit down with actor Thomasin McKenzie – chatting about her new film Joy and more.

New Zealander Thomasin McKenzie is a versatile actor who attentively approaches her craft with elegance and vigour.

Having acted for most of her life, as she tells me during a chilly November Zoom call from Liverpool, McKenzie’s steady rise feels entirely natural. Coming from a family of actors and filmmakers, acting has always been a constant in the 24-year-old’s life. Her first official film role came at the age of seven in 2012’s Existence, though she had already appeared in smaller roles before. From there, McKenzie enjoyed a stint on New Zealand’s most popular TV soap opera, Shortland Street. Fast forward to 2018, she gained recognition for her appearance in Debra Granik’s drama flick, Leave No Trace.

Further supporting roles in Netflix’s The King, Taika Waititi’s 2019 satirical comedy-drama Jojo Rabbit, and M. Night Shyamalan’s thriller Old helped push the actor to the forefront of the gifted actors’ conversation. Yet standout lead performances in Edgar Wright’s exceptional 2021 psychological horror Last Night in Soho, and last year’s Eileen alongside Anne Hathaway, McKenzie has firmly cemented herself as one of the most exciting acting talents around.

In every role, no matter how big or small, the New Zealander has brought energy, enthusiasm and seemingly innate talent to the screen. For someone who seems destined to be the ‘next big thing’, and rightfully so, it’s also a pleasure to see she’s as down to earth and genuine as they come. There are no airs or graces about this actor – she’s well aware and grateful for the position she finds herself in. Off-screen, she is using her well-earned platform to help champion social good by advocating charities like So They Can.

When it comes to her latest film project, the actor has taken on an important real-life figure. In Joy, McKenzie plays the lead role of British nurse and embryologist Jean Purdy as she works alongside scientist Robert Edwards (actor James Norton) and surgeon Patrick Steptoe (actor Bill Nighy) – the founders of IVF treatment. The film details the remarkable true story behind the ground-breaking birth of Louise Joy Brown in 1978, the world’s first ‘test-tube baby’ and the journey to make it possible.

Throughout Joy, McKenzie superbly portrays Jean’s quiet struggles as she deals with being cast out by her family, shunned by her Christian community, and her own infertility woes. Alongside a stellar cast and directing from Ben Taylor, It’s a beautiful film that shines a light on the vital work carried out by a small, determined group whilst society scrutinised them for it. Ultimately, it’s another prime example of why it’s only a matter of time before this actor becomes a household name.

In conversation with 1883 Magazine’s Cameron Poole, Thomasin McKenzie discusses Joy, the unique perspective of being able to look back at her youth on the big screen, almost getting arrested on the way to the Cannes Film Festival, and more.

Hi Thomasin, you’ve taken on some roles in films that play with historical settings, like Jojo Rabbit set during World War II and the 1960s-inspired Last Night in Soho. But with JOY, you’re stepping into a real-life character—nurse and embryologist Jean Purdy—in a story based on actual events. How does your approach to acting change when portraying a real person compared to a fictional character?

There’s definitely a big essence of responsibility when I’m playing someone who is real. It’s quite nice, in a way, because – Jean Purdy was an exception – but usually, there’s a lot more information out there for me to pull on and to base my performance on. I suppose Jean was such a private person, so there was really very little out there about her, and so it took a lot of digging to do a fully formed betrayal of her.

A lot of the time, if it’s a person I’m able to meet and talk to in real life, or if they’re less private than Jean Purdy was, then playing a real person is great because it means that part of my job is already done.

Jean and the team, especially Robert Edwards and Patrick Steptoe, faced intense scrutiny from the public, media, and scientific community for their work. Your portrayal captures Jean’s quiet struggles—being cast out by her religious mother for some time, losing her church community, and her own pain around infertility. After making this film, what insights or personal takeaways have you gained from Jean’s journey?

Good question, I think something I really admired about Jean was her absolute dedication to her work. Part of the reason she was so dedicated is because she knew how much of an impact, a really meaningful impact, it could have on women. If it wasn’t for the work she was doing the success of IVF, It wasn’t going to benefit her personally, but she knew that it would benefit many, many, others. So that dedication… she died very young at 39, and she spent most of her life, working on IVF, working with Bob, Patrick, and these women.

That time that she spent, her dedication, and the knowledge that she was doing something for the greater good, I think has really inspired me. Not everyone gets to do it, but it’s incredibly important that the work that we each do as individuals is something that’s meaningful to us, I think it spurs us on in life. So I’m very lucky to be acting because it’s what I love to do.

Yeah, it was incredibly sad, I welled up when I found out she died at 39 from cancer. Only seven years after Louise Joy Brown was born, she did not get to see the full extent of how over the years IVF treatment has helped so many women and couples. As Jean’s contributions have been somewhat overshadowed by history, how does it feel to bring her story to a wider audience today? As a lot of people will learn about her and these people through this film for the first time.

It’s really exciting actually to be able to share Jean’s story and share it with the world. It’s part of the reason this film was made in the first place. They tried to make this film before, through the lens of Robert Edwards. For whatever reason, it didn’t work. Then they discovered that maybe telling it through Jean’s perspective would be a better idea, and that’s what brought the film to life.

So I think Jean is the reason why we’re telling the story, and largely just to get her name out there to share the fact that she had played such a large role in the success of IVF. For years and years, women’s contributions to things that have made a huge impact on the world have just gone overlooked and have been wiped out of history. So telling this story is a small part of reclaiming those huge particular things.

Moving away from JOY for a moment, you’ve been acting since early childhood and come from a family of actors and filmmakers. What’s it like knowing that, over the years, you have this unique record of yourself at different stages—childhood, adolescence, and adulthood—through the roles you’ve played? You’re playing characters but you still physically see yourself. Do you ever think about it?

I do think about it. Not so much for the more recent things that I’ve done, but for the roles that I played when I was really young. It’s really fun and funny, It’s entertaining to be able to go back into to watch those things. I think everyone, especially these days, loves to kind of look back into their childhood and kind of figure out what went wrong [laughs]. Like, why am who I am? and what happened back then that meant that I am who I am now? So it’s a very self-indulgent thing, being able to actually go back and watch so much footage of myself from when I was that age.

Also in terms of tracking my progress as an actor and looking back on past projects and thinking about how I approached those roles compared to how I approach roles now, that’s a really interesting resource for me to have. But I think that these days, like with iPhones and things, kind of everyone has that. Everyone has the ability to go back and and watch videos of themselves from when they were younger, and they’re actually watching videos of themselves, not videos of themselves playing someone else.

You’re right, I do find the idea of it kind of scary. My brother has a little boy who’s eight months old, and I took a photo of them the other day. The cutest thing. It’s wild that when he’s grown up, if we still have these things, I could just show him a high-definition photo of himself when he was a baby or a video.

Aw. Yeah, it is weird. And it’s weird that you can go on your phone, scroll down and the phone has the recognised faces they put into albums. So really, it’s like scanning all of our faces and everything. It’s freaky. I think maybe we’re being over-saturated with that. The chances are, your nephew isn’t going to see that photo because there are so many other photos and videos of him. I personally wouldn’t be bothered to scroll through every single iPhone image of myself, if they were taken when I was eight months old.

I’m thinking about my dad, there aren’t many photos of my dad when he was younger, and that was quite an emotional thing for him. Well, he didn’t think there were any photos of himself when he was younger, which was upsetting to him. And then my mum was going through old photos, and she discovered a box of photos of my dad from when he was a kid. It was a really exciting, moving, emotional thing. So the fact that there were fewer, each photo had more value. To me, that is more special than 1000s of images that are just going to get lost in the ether.

Agreed. Sorry, I took us off topic there, but just quickly, I think as time goes on, we’ll probably reject these things or certain technological aspects and probably put more importance on tangible things like photo books.

Yeah! One more thing, with documentaries about people like Amy Winehouse or Heath Ledger, in those documentaries, they used footage that the person had filmed of themselves, or that their family members had filmed of them. Seeing that footage is so emotional. Maybe the fact that people do have access to recordings of themselves, maybe it is a cool thing. But then you go down the rabbit hole of like AI, it’s scary.

I know right, What a time to be alive! [laughs]

Yeah [laughs].

Just to make it more lighthearted, If someone is visiting your home country of New Zealand for the first time, what would you recommend as the first thing someone should eat or do?

Okay, so this reminds me as I’m supposed to write a list of things to do for a friend who’s visiting New Zealand. So I am going to do that after this. The first thing is, if you are visiting Wellington, where I am from, I would recommend that you immediately go to Queen Sally’s Diamond Deli, which is like a five-minute drive from the airport to Lyall Bay Parade.

Get one of their salads and one of their vegan cheese scones, they’re really good. Even if you’re not vegan, they’re really good. I would definitely recommend that you do that and then go on a walk that takes you to a high point, and enjoy a beautiful outlook of the city.

As a music fan, tell me about your experience of going to watch a Taylor Swift Eras Tour concert in August…

Oh my gosh. It was… I can’t even put into words how crazy it was. I think for the first half I was like in absolute shock. And then for the second half, I was kind of present and enjoying myself. and by the end, I was like, ‘wait, I didn’t actually get a chance to acknowledge the fact that I’m here, that Taylor Swift is right there’. I wanted to do it all again, because most of that was just kind of like ‘what is going on’, especially since halfway through the show, I got a letter from Taylor Swift herself. Like hand-delivered to me.

The fact that she even knew that I was there, it was incredible. I got to take my good friend Charlotte, who’s a big Taylor Swift Fan and just to see the excitement and joy on her face was pretty fantastic.

That is so wholesome, I love that. I imagine the letter is framed and kept somewhere special.

Oh yeah! It’s pretty exciting whenever someone comes around to my flat, who is a Taylor Swift Fan, pulling out that letter and being like ‘check this out’ and seeing their reaction. It’s pretty special.

Who else are you into music-wise?

One of my favourite songs ever is “Vienna” by Billy Joel. So I’d say if I could, see that live, that would be just a huge moment. I love Aurora, her song “Exist For Love”, I really love that. Lorde, Marlon Williams, who’s a New Zealand singer. I’m big into Sabrina Carpenter right now. Gosh, who am I listening to? Benson Boone I’ve gotten into recently.

I’m filming in Liverpool, so I’ve been listening to a lot of The Beatles. You know how on Spotify you can listen to all the songs that you’ve liked in the past, I’ve been doing that recently, going back and just reminding myself of some really great songs.

I was trying to work out if you have a film camera, as you have some great shots on your Instagram from your travels, they’re cool. Do you have a camera you bring on your travels?

Aw, thank you, I do. My boyfriend and I have been getting really into film photography recently. Well, he’s kind of been getting me more into it. So I’ve got a little Olympus. My boyfriend has a film camera. I can’t remember the model or whatever, and that takes really amazing, high-quality images. This one, for some reason, light keeps getting into it, so the images come out a bit dodgy. But It’s lots of fun.

I mean, this takes us back to our conversation about iPhone photos, with film photos, It’s so exciting when you take them to get developed and seeing what you’ve got. Sometimes it’s really disappointing, and sometimes you get little gems. My boyfriend and I have a film photography account on Instagram called ‘gateisgood’ that we’ve been sharing a lot of photos on recently.

Fantastic, nice account plug as well [laughs]. When it comes to platforms, It’s really lovely to see you use yours for social good, for example, through your ambassadorship for So They Can. What led you to get involved with the organisation and is there anything you want our readers to know about?

I have been involved with So They Can since I was about 17 or 18, because the CEO, Cassandra Treadwell, she was an old girl at my old school, so she came to give us a talk one day, and I was just really inspired by her. My mum also went to my old school, so there was that connection there and she knew Cassandra and I think my mum had already kind of done some ambassadorial kind of stuff with So They Can. So for me, it was a very natural thing to start working with them. For me, doing things like that, having the longevity, like a long-standing relationship with an organisation, is really important. I see, and this isn’t judging, I’m not saying it’s bad, but you see a lot on social media, people kind of picking up on trends of social causes. That just never really sits right with me.

So working with an organisation where I really know what they’re about, and I’ve met the people, I’ve been there, I’ve been to the places that the communities that they’re working with. To the people that they’re working with, it really means a lot. The work that So They Can does is incredible. I went to Kenya with them last year and visited a few of the schools that they’ve just started working with, and a few schools that they’ve been working with for years. It was really amazing to see the differences between the schools that were only just receiving their support and the schools that had been supported for years. Seeing the difference in the facilities, the quality of education and the work that they do to prevent female genital mutilation is absolutely so important. Preventing those girls from being harmed by talking to the parents, making sure the girls are in school, and providing the families with other ways of making money. It’s really amazing work.

Yeah, there are certain trends that get jumped on and it seems disingenuous. I wanted to help shine a light on that because it is authentic and genuine – it’s nice to see someone with a platform do something like that.

Thank you. Sometimes it’s tricky knowing what you have a right to speak on and what you don’t, and where feels right for me to lend my voice to or to be involved with. I’m really proud of the work that I’ve done with So They Can, it’s just an organisation that truly is doing so much good.

Throughout your career, you’ve done a lot of travelling, part of the career. Cast your mind back to the Cannes Film Festival in 2018; you were over there for Leave No Trace. You almost, according to yourself, got arrested in Cannes or something, what happened?

I’m impressed that you know about this [laughs]. Basically, it’s so stupid. I was 18. I was traveling. I’d been all throughout America, and had just arrived for the very first time in London with my family. I’d never been to Europe before. This was my very first time stepping on British soil. We were going through the security and my bag was pulled aside. Keep in mind, we’d been all throughout America at this point, and then my bag hadn’t been taken aside at all. So I’m waiting for them to go through it. I was thinking I must have just forgotten to empty my water bottle or something. That’s usually what’s happened. So the security, the person goes through my bag, they can’t find anything. They’re zipping it out. They take one last glance at the X-ray screen, and they’re like ‘no, there really is, there’s something in there’.

So they open my bag up again, and they find this little pouch that is attached. It’s like a key chain. It’s attached to the zip on my bag. And they opened up the pouch and they pulled out a bullet. He kind of pulled it out and held it up, and he was like, ‘what are you doing with this?’ And I just completely lost all words. It was like my tongue had been cut out. I just didn’t know what to say. I just immediately start crying. My dad comes over and asks what is going on. It turned out that all the way back in New Zealand, I had been out with my boyfriend at his family farm, and I had found a bullet on the ground in a field, and I picked it up, and I thought, ‘Ah, this is really cool.’ I kind of kept it as a memento and just put it in a pouch in my bag and completely forgot about it. Cut to a few months later, there it is.

So they took my passport, they called the police that were in the airport, and they come over to us and they’re questioning me, like, ‘why the hell do you have this?’ And I kind of managed to get that story out, and my dad being the incredible person that he is, he just starts absolutely charming the police. He’s like, ‘you guys are incredible. Like, they didn’t pick up on this in America. Like, you guys are so good at your job’, he asks to get a photo with the police. So I’m there, my eyes are super puffy and red because I had been sobbing, and the police are flanking me on either side, and then my little sister, who would have been six or seven at the time, she’s standing in the middle, beaming, super excited. And because of all that charming, the police were like, ‘Okay, we’ll let you go on this one, but don’t do it again.’ [laughs].

Forgive me, curiosity got the better of me, I had to ask. Your dad sounds like a complete legend by the way [laughs].

Oh my god, I think if my dad wasn’t who he is, I probably would have been sent straight back home [laughs].

I was a bit late to the party, as you’d already been in so many projects by then, but I first saw your work in Last Night in Soho, and I ended up seeing it two or three times.

Oh wow, thank you.

I have to ask this because you and obviously, Edgar, are both incredibly talented. Would you ever consider teaming up again on a future project down the line?

I’d absolutely love to, yeah. I mean, he’s done films in the past, like Sean of The Dead, what do they call the trilogy?

The Cornetto Trilogy!

Yeah. Edgar’s given different roles multiple times. So it’d be really fun to be able to do something like that with him. Maybe, yeah, I don’t know, maybe in a few years, when he’s got the next project up and running.

I’d love to work with Edgar again because he has a very unique, specific vision. We filmed that when I was 18. I don’t think I was fully aware of or appreciative of how he works and how specific his vision was. I’d love to work with him again, just to be able to actually watch him at work and observe how he goes about bringing things to life.

When we filmed Last Night in Soho, I was 18, and it was all such a rush. I didn’t think to just stand still and take note of what I was a part of. For that reason as well, I would love to work with him again.

Going back to Joy, you appear alongside the likes of Bill Nighy and James Norton, what did you take from working with these actors? There were many great people involved.

I think working with Bill, I mean he is an absolute icon. I was in shock and awe the entire shoot, that I was even sharing a scene with him. Apart from just how amazing he is at his job, him just as a person, he is so special. He is absolutely kind, loving, and really present. Like I said about Last Night in Soho, I was wrapped up in the work, character, and wasn’t taking note of where I was and who I was working with.

But Bill, he is present in his character but also present in the fact that we were all there together making something together. He was 100% focused and just enjoying working with a great team of people. He was singing and dancing the entire time and it was really special to see how he approached acting, his job, which was full of joy.

As you’ve been acting for 18 plus years, what has been one of the biggest lessons you’ve learnt so far?

I think what I was saying about Bill, just enjoying what it is that I do. It is so easy to get wrapped up in the stress of it all. It is really fast-paced and acting can be quite stressful. I am so privileged to be able to do this but as someone who is an introvert and gets overwhelmed very easily, it is a lot.

I think over the years, I’ve learned to enjoy each day on set and have fun with each scene. I often have to remind myself when I’m getting in my head like ‘oh, I didn’t do that very well, I’m not doing a very good job’, I just have to be like ‘enjoy it, you are playing’, and be present with the people you are collaborating with. Not to get too down by the stresses of it all.

Finally, what would you like to turn your hand to next when it comes to future roles?

Firstly, I don’t know. It is so hard to plan ahead, I’m not a future planner, I am an in this moment planner. So I am really excited to continue on in this career, hopefully for a very long time. I am really excited by each and every opportunity that comes my way and I hope they keep on coming.

I do really want to play a fairy; I have been putting this out there for years and want to continue to do so. If I can play a fairy, I’d be done, I would be satisfied.

I know you’ve done loads of interviews and I want to emphasise that you taking the time to chat right now, means a lot, so thanks, Thomasin.

Thank you, Cameron, I really appreciate that. It has been lovely to talk to you and you’ve had such great questions. You’ve really made me think [laughs].

Joy is available to stream globally on Netflix on November 22nd, 2024.

Source: 1883magazine.com





i-D Magazine

Thomasin McKenzie on embodying Ottessa Moshfegh’s latest twisted creation
After roles in ‘Old’ and ‘Last Night in Soho’, the New Zealand actor breaks even crazier new ground in the sapphic thriller ‘Eileen’.

When she was six years old, Thomasin McKenzie’s grandmother asked her what she wanted to do with her life. She listed every career you can think of — with one exception. “I said, I do not want to be an actor,” she recalls. “Little did I know.”

Thomasin is one of those actors so self-effacing and ego-free in the moment that it’s difficult to match her in person with her myriad screen roles. With her young face and sharp features perpetually etched with worry, she’s become a go-to dramatic foil for directors like Jane Campion, Taika Waititi and Edgar Wright. After her breakout role in Debra Granik’s grossly underseen Leave No Trace in 2018, Thomasin has bounced from one buzzy project to the next. She popped up in The Power of the Dog, was present on the beach that makes you old in Old, brought much-needed humanity to the contentious Jojo Rabbit, and starred opposite Anya Taylor-Joy in Last Night in Soho. You already know Thomasin McKenzie, but she would like for you to get to know her more.

She moved to London a few months ago for a film — Joy, about the world’s first IVF baby — but decided to stay. The long haul flights from the US to her home in New Zealand after every project were getting too much and it was time for a change. We’re meeting in a north London bakery in her new neighbourhood. “I’ve worked in London more than anywhere else,” she says. “It felt like the right next step.”

Filming Last Night in Soho, a movie enamoured by London’s cultural scene, was “a great introduction” to the city, she says, and she’s kept in touch with Edgar, who continues to show her the sights. “He’s the best tour guide possible,” she says. And, obviously, in between projects she’s acclimatised to the UK through the usual suspects: Love Island and The Great British Bake Off.
Thomasin, an actor since her teens, says she treated the job “almost like a chore” at first. Descended from a dynasty of actors — her mother, Miranda Harcourt, is the daughter of Kate Harcourt; both were made Dames for their services to theatre — acting is in Thomasin’s blood, but she wasn’t naturally drawn to it. “My dad has done it, all my siblings have done it, I think I was just a bit over it,” she says. She gave in and first started acting to earn pocket money, then quickly found that she was good at it. “I also realised that acting gave me a voice,” she says. “I think there is a little bit of an activist in me that wants to be able to share important messages, and acting is an amazing way of doing that.”

She finds herself at, as she calls it, “an interesting point in my career”. The pandemic put the kibosh on her usual schedule of three or four films a year and it gave her the time and space to reevaluate what she wants from her career. Now, she only does two carefully chosen projects. “My team and I have been more selective,” she says. “I’m not doing everything that comes to me now.”

Set in nowheresville, Massachusetts, her latest film, the dark, seedy and gripping Eileen is a nasty little powder keg of a thriller about a dejected young woman who becomes consumed by a new arrival in her town. (If you think you know where it’s going, you really don’t). It feels like a perfect stepping stone for her as she makes the deliberate decision to step away from younger roles. Though Eileen may be in her early twenties, an abusive upbringing has warped her development, making her unworldly and almost feral; at once, Thomasin is playing both an adult and a child. “It’s a coming-of-age film, in a way,” she says.
Adapted from the Ottessa Moshfegh novel by the author herself (and her partner Luke Goebel), the script for Eileen came to Thomasin not long after she, like most girlies, had read My Year of Rest and Relaxation, the BookTok darling about a depressed heiress who sedates herself for a year. She immediately knew she wanted to play another of the author’s somewhat twisted creations. “Ottessa’s writing is almost… queasy,” she says, thinking of the right word. “It makes you feel a little bit uncomfortable.” Because of this, she says she was “a bit intimidated, at first” by the writer. “I tend to ramble and can be a bit… word vomit… but she’s really lovely, and her and Luke are just so smart.”

Eileen’s journey to the big screen retains all of the novel’s murky, mordant humour. We first meet Eileen discreetly ogling a couple making out and stuffing handfuls of snow into her pants to cool herself: her own Eileen-ish way of masturbation. At her workplace, a men’s prison, she hallucinates being ravished by the guards. She goes home to her shabby attic bedroom and mainlines candy like a sugar-addicted six year old. Though it didn’t make it into the film, novel-Eileen is addicted to consuming laxatives, getting off on, as Ottessa writes, her “oceanic, torrential” bathroom visits. “I would have done it if I had to, but I’m happy I didn’t,” Thomasin says, sounding genuinely relieved. But as grimly funny as Eileen’s unorthodox life is, Thomasin felt a duty of care towards the character.

But Thomasin’s thoroughness with Eileen was as important for her as it was for the character. “At the time I was going through my own mental health journey, and I’m the kind of person who really likes receiving diagnoses.” She spent evenings on set journaling her idea of Eileen’s thoughts and feelings in the following day’s scenes. “Sometimes I can maybe take it too far,” she says. “But it’s a great way to communicate with your director–” She breaks off, distracted by a woman at the table next to us, who’s opened a notebook and started scribbling down notes and drawings. “My journals were much like that,” she whispers. “But yeah, it’s a way for me to let the director know that I’m dedicated, and I’m passionate about what we’re making.”
Starring opposite Thomasin in Eileen is Anne Hathaway as Rebecca Saint John, a counsellor at their prison; a woman as glamorous as her name suggests, whose vivacity and charm breaks apart Eileen’s sheltered life. “It was probably the most starstruck I’ve ever been,” she says, a lifelong fan of The Princess Diaries. Given that Eileen is similarly awed by Rebecca, did this off-screen dynamic inform her performance? “It really helped a lot, actually. I just had to behave as Thomasin,” she says. “Usually you’re not allowed to stare at another actor, but Eileen was a great excuse for me to just stare at Anne.”

Following Last Night in Soho, I point out that this is the second time in Thomasin’s career that she’s starred in a 60s-set film opposite a glamorous blonde woman her character is obsessed with. “Oh my god, that is so true. I hadn’t thought of it like that,” she says. Perhaps she needs to do a third to close out the trilogy? “Yeah, like [Edgar’s] Cornetto Trilogy. Maybe [next time] I could be the blonde woman?”
While filming Eileen, Thomasin became conscious of the difference between her and Anne. “I definitely wouldn’t consider myself to be a glamorous person,” she says. “I don’t have that grace. I’m a bit awkward, a bit clumsy, a bit erratic. It was the same with Anya; that was great casting because we’re also very different people. Anya and Anne have this natural grace and elegance to them, and it’s nice to see that contrast.”
I tell Thomasin she’s being too hard on herself. She’s not looking for a compliment. She explains that she’s always been drawn to outcast characters hovering at the fringes, never quite fitting in, because that’s how she’s felt a lot of her life. “It doesn’t bother me,” she says. “I like that part of myself — I own it — and I get to play really cool roles because of it. I’m happy to be a bit awkward.”

Source: i-d.vice.com





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Vogue Magazine

Thomasin McKenzie Watched Mark Wahlberg Movies to Prepare for Eileen

Thomasin McKenzie takes it as a compliment when people don’t know she’s from New Zealand. The 23-year-old actor—who broke through with 2019’s Jojo Rabbit and 2021’s Last Night in Soho—regularly showcases accent work so good that her Kiwi heritage can come as something of a shock. “After the first screening of Leave No Trace, I went up onto the stage and we did a Q&A and the reaction of the audience was so gratifying,” she says. “Everyone was turning their heads and looking at the person sitting next to them like, What the hell? Who is this person? I was pretty stoked.”

In the latest addition to her impressive oeuvre, McKenzie tackles the titular role in the psychological thriller Eileen, the first film adaptation of an Ottessa Moshfegh novel. (Moshfegh and her partner, Luke Goebel, wrote the screenplay together.) McKenzie plays the mousy, repressed Eileen Dunlop, a 24-year-old who spends her days working as a prison secretary and caring for her alcoholic father (Shea Whigham) while fantasizing about the men at the prison. Yet when the new prison psychologist, Rebecca (Anne Hathaway), arrives, she pulls Eileen into her intoxicating orbit.

The film, directed by William Oldroyd (Lady Macbeth), is anchored by a stellar performance from McKenzie, who holds her own against an electric Hathaway. Below, McKenzie tells Vogue about sharpening her Massachusetts accent, accidentally getting too into character, and her relationship with her costar Hathaway.

Vogue: Were you a fan of Ottessa Moshfegh before you read the script for Eileen?

Thomasin McKenzie: I’d read her book My Year of Rest and Relaxation sometime during COVID, before reading Eileen, before even hearing about the script. I knew it was the first of Ottessa’s books to be made into a film, so I was really interested.

Her writing makes you feel queasy but also grips your attention, and the film manages to capture that same feeling.

I know exactly what you mean. Her style of writing is queasy, uncomfortable, and very truthful. It’s very visceral. It was really fun playing with that tone in the film and trying to achieve that feeling you get when reading her work.

How did she help you develop Eileen as a character?

She was there for two days for rehearsal, and we all sat around a table and talked through the script—about Eileen’s relationship with her dad, Rebecca, and the Polk boy. The thing I was most nervous about was the accent because Ottessa is from Massachusetts, so she knows the accent very well. So I was quite stressed that I wouldn’t get the accent right because she’d be the first person to pick up on it if it was wrong.

You do a lot of accent work in your roles. How do you develop them?

A lot of time on Zoom. For the longest time, when I was younger, I used to wish that I actually was from America, just because I was so frustrated at the amount of time and money I’d had to spend on accent coaching. But now I’m really grateful to be from New Zealand. I find it very uncomfortable using my own accent when I’m working, so being able to put on an accent for a character is really helpful to me. [Massachusetts has] an interesting accent. There’s a lot of Irish influence on it. I watched a lot of films with Mark Wahlberg.

I’ve also noticed that you’re such a physical actor—

[Makes a face.]

Are you surprised?

I’m flattered! Physical in what way?

You bring this timidness to Eileen. Then I think about your performance in Jojo Rabbit, which had a ferocity to it. Even in scenes where you’re not talking, you carry yourself in a way that is wholly representative of your character.

She’s very self-conscious, she’s got struggles with her body image, she hasn’t received a lot of loving touch from her family, she hasn’t had any kind of romantic relationships, she doesn’t have any friends. I wanted to give a feeling of that, so I try and pull my stomach in, tuck my pelvis, and round my shoulders a little bit to give a feeling that she was trying to protect herself, in a way.

Knowing how isolated and disgusting she felt influenced my shell around her. With Elsa in Jojo Rabbit, she’d spent so much time in that space behind the wall, so she was hunched a lot. Being able to come out of that cubbyhole and stand up straight—I remember thinking that would be a really wonderful feeling, to be able to fully stretch herself out, or even to sit on Jojo’s sister’s bed and feel the warmth and the cushiness of the mattress. Elsa was quite a confident girl. She was sassy and more confident in her body. She wasn’t so afraid to take up space like Eileen was.

One of the most poignant scenes in Eileen is when she waits at the window for Rebecca and realizes she’s not coming back. Can you tell me a bit about filming that?

I have a funny story about that scene, which I don’t know if the props department would be very happy with me telling. Eileen was smoking throughout that scene, and we had to do the take over and over again. I’d asked if I could have a pack of what I thought were fake cigarettes on hand, and after a few, I was like, Wow, the placebo effect is really working. I feel like I’m getting some head spins. Once we finished those scenes, I mentioned it to the props lady and she was like, “Oh, no, they’re real cigarettes.” I had asked for Shea Whigham’s cigarettes because I knew he would always have some on hand. I didn’t realize that he had been smoking real cigarettes, and she didn’t realize I was asking for fake ones. So I was a chain-smoker for that day.

In the book’s basement scene, I believe the gun goes off when Eileen and Rebecca are fumbling with it. But in the film Eileen is holding it, and she says she pulled the trigger because she was angry. What do you make of that?

I think Eileen was in such shock and so angry that her body pulled the trigger for her. I realized when filming on the day that Eileen’s sister, Joanie—who abandoned Eileen and her dad—had been physically abused by their dad. So for Eileen, pulling the trigger was also kind of acknowledging her own pain and the abuse that she received from her father and expressing her anger and pain from that. I don’t think it was a fully conscious moment, though.

Eileen and Rebecca have quite an interesting dynamic. How did you two build rapport off-screen?

Luckily for us, I feel like our real-life relationship reflected the relationship between Eileen and Rebecca. I’ve been such a fan of Anne ever since I was a kid watching The Princess Diaries. Those are my all-time favorite films. When I met her for the first time, I very much was starstruck. Anne naturally is a really formidable person. She has such grace and style and intellect to her, just like Rebecca. So just like Thomasin was in awe of Anne, Eileen was in awe of Rebecca in similar ways. But luckily our relationship is much less toxic.

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Harpers Bazaar: Thomasin McKenzie on collaboration, career advice and the power of transformation

“Collaboration makes me really happy,” Thomasin McKenzie tells us. “I just finished a production and the relationship I had with the director and the entire crew and cast was so joyful and loving and collaborative. That made me so happy because it’s what I love the most.”

We’re meeting the New Zealand actress in London as she prepares to promote her lead role in the upcoming Edgar Wright thriller, Last Night in Soho – so where more fitting for our interview and shoot than that same energetic London neighbourhood? After effortlessly waltzing her way through a series of photos at the Parisian restaurant Brasserie Zédel, we’re now comfortably ensconced in the luxury of the Hotel Café Royal, one of Soho’s longest-established mainstays.

McKenzie is arguably best-known for her supporting roles in the award-winning Jojo Rabbit and the action-packed True History of the Kelly Gang, as well as her breakout appearance in in Debra Granik’s 2018 drama Leave No Trace, for which she received much critical acclaim. It’s her quietly captivating, chameleon-like qualities as an actor which allows for her to take on such varying roles with an ease that belies her 21 years.

“The best career advice I’ve ever received is a piece of advice from my mum,” she explains. “It was life advice, but now I take it as career advice, and that is to be like water in a stream – flowing freely and easily past obstacles or ‘rocks’ – and just not being too taken aback or stopped in your tracks by things, but being able to move around them and continue on with your life.”

That concept of fluidity and flexibility is clearly something that appeals to McKenzie, who describes her idea of self-care as “stillness, and not feeling the pressure of time”, and says that her ideal superpower would be “the ability to transform into absolutely anything”.

“With that power, you basically have all the powers,” she points out. “You could be a bird, you could be a fish, you could be a chameleon, you could be an elf. I could live out my dream of being a fairy.”

So, with Last Night in Soho garnering huge levels of press and attention ahead of its release, putting her firmly on the map as an in-demand leading lady, what would advice would she give her younger self, who was just starting out as an emerging teenage actress?

“Just not to care so much, and to be gentler on myself,” she says, thoughtfully. “Because life is joyful and not everything is such a big deal. You’ll survive.”

Watch our full video interview with McKenzie above, in which she reveals what makes her happiest, her unusual party trick, the most luxurious purchases she’s ever made, and the job that changed her life.

Source: Harpersbazaar.com





Stuff: Thomasin McKenzie charms Americans on Stephen Colbert’s The Late Show

Making her talk-show debut on Stephen Colbert’s The Late Show, Wellington actor Thomasin McKenzie kept it real.
She joked about the exotic offerings of the US, mainly megastore Target, and questioned Colbert about why he didn’t visit her during his last trip to Wellington.
McKenzie was on The Late Show ahead of the release of Last Night in Soho, which sees her star alongside The Queen’s Gambit’s Anya Taylor-Joy in a glamorous psychological horror.
The 21-year-old actor missed the film’s red carpet debut at the Venice Film Festival earlier this year due to the pandemic, but made it for the US launch this week.
She attended the Los Angeles premiere on Monday (local time), at a star-studded and sparkly launch party at the Academy Museum of Motion Pictures.
McKenzie played a somewhat naive and wide-eyed fashion student in Last Night in Soho, a highly anticipated horror film from director Edgar Wright, which had been years in the making.
She made waves in Taika Waititi’s Jojo Rabbit, but had also starred in New Zealand-shot productions including The Hobbit and Shortland Street. The past few years have been huge for the young actor, with four productions coming out in the past year – The Justice of Bunny King, Old, The Power of the Dog and, of course, Last Night in Soho.

During her appearance on The Late Show, McKenzie touched on “tall poppy syndrome” in New Zealand, saying it was a reason to keep grounded.
”You don’t get a chance to get too big for your boots, there’s something called ‘tall poppy syndrome’ – people in New Zealand don’t tolerate people being a…, basically,” she said.
She also joked about being excited to be in the US, and being able to visit places that weren’t available back in Wellington – like Target.
“My little sister is 14 and she’s TikTok obsessed, and when she found out I would be coming to America she didn’t say ‘oh I’m going to miss you’, she said ‘OK, can you go to Target for me’,” McKenzie said.
However, she had some sad news for her sister: she was unlikely to be visiting Target. “It’s not for me,” she said. “I get overwhelmed very easily, even going to the supermarket it’s too much, so I think Target would just be a little bit too far.”
McKenzie appeared to win new fans after making her talk-show debut, with comments flooding into The Late Show in praise of her genuine, straight-talking and charming interview.
Many commenters wondered if it really was her first time on a talk show, saying she played it incredibly cool.

Source: Stuff.co.nz






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